Okay so I'm not really political in life or online. I don't like the confrontation. I also realize it's hard to change people's minds including my own. But people on facebook or in real life who are verbal enough to voice their opinions are usually quite aggressive. I say this about liberal and conservatives people who are entrenched in their positions.
But something that really bothers me more is that both sides have trouble having an intellectual discourse. I admit I think it's more conservatives that use hate mongering and fear but liberals thumb their noses and say snobby rhetoric as well. But I don't how this country is degenerating so quickly that anyone of an opposing opinion is considered wrong and A$& and s#&)%*.
I also don't like the racism and hate going on. That Ben Carson can even say a muslim shouldn't be president and muslim faith isn't compatible with the constitution and get more donations. I'm seriously floored. A blogger calling Bernie Sanders a weasel Jew. I can't believe in today's day and age people can say these things and not be spurned.
I wonder when will a move forward as a society and start talking about our issues in a respectable manner?
a semi political rant
October 1st, 2015 at 06:37 pm
October 1st, 2015 at 06:44 pm 1443721457
Of course as you say, tons of conservative commentators say some truly awful things. The ones from liberals really make me do a gut-check though, to make sure I'm not stooping to that level myself. I get angry, indignant and sarcastic, but I try not to use tactics that would disgust me if they came from someone I disagreed with.
October 1st, 2015 at 07:12 pm 1443723128
I do often see major economic or tax misinformation, but I usually just let it go because I don't want to get into it.
October 2nd, 2015 at 12:23 am 1443741804
October 2nd, 2015 at 12:48 am 1443743323
October 2nd, 2015 at 02:42 pm 1443793326
But, the TEA party movement sickens me. And, if I can't be anti TEA party, and conservative at the same time, then I guess I'm officially a moderate now.
But, yes, those entrenched on both sides of the political spectrum spew some pretty hateful stuff. I do wish that we as a country/society could have a thoughtful debate about policies, and ideas, and see the value in the ideas and policies of people with whom we don't completely agree.
But those on the extremes seem to be sucking up all of the air in the room.
October 2nd, 2015 at 03:48 pm 1443797284
And it's the same on gun control. Unless we can have a real discussion about that, untainted by all the rhetoric, we will get no where. And all this will continue to happen.
October 2nd, 2015 at 11:52 pm 1443826353
So I don't think conservatives or liberals are immune from being racist, classist, etc. They just show it differently!
October 3rd, 2015 at 12:49 am 1443829773
Btw - Carson wasn't actually saying that he didn't want *any* Muslim to be president. He had actually said (when you go outside of the soundbite) that he felt that Sharia (sp?) law did not mesh with the US Constitution, and so a Muslim who embraced that law instead of the Constitution, would not be acceptable. It still wasn't a smart thing to say. He's done a lot of that ...
October 3rd, 2015 at 03:07 am 1443838030
US has 7x more gun violence than other countries. And they all have stricter gun laws. Can you dispute the fact that the US has more gun violence than anywhere else?
Second, Sharia law do you understand it? Do you really know how it is followed Frugal Texan? Have you ever sat through prayers? Can you honestly say that religious scholars and those who practice being a muslim and have said Sharia Law is practiced like the old testament? Or are you judging that which you don't fully understand?
I ask because I have sat through muslim prayers and heard much about it. My DH best friend is muslim and his family does much religious work for them. To think that the son he is raising as a muslim born in the us shouldn't be president for his faith? Seems ridiculous considering he is one of the genuine, kind, respectful people I've ever met. That he can be a faithful to his religion and good and it's not respected? I'm sorry but no there are many muslim people who are faithful and judged.
And yes he is profiled. He has been searched and pulled over A LOT. He's missed planes into the US not clearing customs or been pulled in airports. Over the 'perception' of his looks and religion. I consider him my DK1 'godfather' and happy to call him so. He gave her a muslim name that my DH and I embrace and accept happily. But to see him so judged is truly a shame.