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a semi political rant

October 1st, 2015 at 10:37 am

Okay so I'm not really political in life or online. I don't like the confrontation. I also realize it's hard to change people's minds including my own. But people on facebook or in real life who are verbal enough to voice their opinions are usually quite aggressive. I say this about liberal and conservatives people who are entrenched in their positions.

But something that really bothers me more is that both sides have trouble having an intellectual discourse. I admit I think it's more conservatives that use hate mongering and fear but liberals thumb their noses and say snobby rhetoric as well. But I don't how this country is degenerating so quickly that anyone of an opposing opinion is considered wrong and A$& and s#&)%*.

I also don't like the racism and hate going on. That Ben Carson can even say a muslim shouldn't be president and muslim faith isn't compatible with the constitution and get more donations. I'm seriously floored. A blogger calling Bernie Sanders a weasel Jew. I can't believe in today's day and age people can say these things and not be spurned.

I wonder when will a move forward as a society and start talking about our issues in a respectable manner?

9 Responses to “a semi political rant”

  1. ceejay74 Says:

    I agree. I'm super duper liberal/left/progressive, but it bothers me that people who agree with my views use despicable tactics to get their points across. Examples: fat-shaming Chris Christie. Talking about Ben Carson's wife's appearance (or Carly Fiorina's, or Kim Davis's). One egregious example I just saw: doctoring a pro-NRA video so it appeared the woman in it accidentally shot herself in the head. Really??

    Of course as you say, tons of conservative commentators say some truly awful things. The ones from liberals really make me do a gut-check though, to make sure I'm not stooping to that level myself. I get angry, indignant and sarcastic, but I try not to use tactics that would disgust me if they came from someone I disagreed with.

  2. MonkeyMama Says:

    For sure. I am very moderate, which just means I get called names from both sides. Well, I used to be anyway. The right wing has jumped off the deep end in more recent years. I probably identify as more liberal any more, though I'd prefer to just be in the middle!

    I do often see major economic or tax misinformation, but I usually just let it go because I don't want to get into it.

  3. Buendia Says:

    Like ceejay, I am a super duper liberal progressive, and I agree with your post! I don't talk about politics much with anyone except my husband and mother. I figure I'll use my one vote each time there is an election. I decided about 2 years ago to stop watching the news. I look at any facebook post from Humans of New York because it reminds me that everyone is connected, even though it sometimes makes me cry. I skip over the political posts (among my friends, most posts seems to be about kids or soccer anyway). Not sure how I'm going to participate in the next election, but only watching British TV sure helps me get through it (no political adverts).

  4. PatientSaver Says:

    The Internet allows the worst dregs of society to hide behind the anonymity of the web to say shameful, racist and hateful things they would never say in public.

  5. Bob B. Says:

    I'll weigh in as the (so far anyway) lone conservative. I couldn't agree more. I've identified myself as a conservative for the past approximate 23 years (I'm 42). Actually, I'm becoming more moderate as the years pass.

    But, the TEA party movement sickens me. And, if I can't be anti TEA party, and conservative at the same time, then I guess I'm officially a moderate now.

    But, yes, those entrenched on both sides of the political spectrum spew some pretty hateful stuff. I do wish that we as a country/society could have a thoughtful debate about policies, and ideas, and see the value in the ideas and policies of people with whom we don't completely agree.

    But those on the extremes seem to be sucking up all of the air in the room.

  6. My English Castle Says:

    Count me in. The idea of supporting a politician because they won't compromise is idiotic. All this founding father baloney--does anyone really think they didn't compromise? All you have to do is read some history to see how much.

    And it's the same on gun control. Unless we can have a real discussion about that, untainted by all the rhetoric, we will get no where. And all this will continue to happen.

  7. Livingalmostlarge Says:

    Bob I'm a liberal who can't stand a LOT of entitled liberals. Who say things they can't even realize are "priviledged." Volunteering and helping is great but until you've walked a mile in someone else shoes you can't understand.

    So I don't think conservatives or liberals are immune from being racist, classist, etc. They just show it differently!

  8. FrugalTexan75 Says:

    I really don't know what I consider myself anymore. I grew up in a staunchly Republican family (dad's side LOVES Ben Carson ...)but then both my brother and I vote for Obama 2x. I can't stand Fox news, but I'm not sure that CNN is all that much better. I've wished for years that there was a way to get truly unbiased information -both about candidates and the issues. But everything's a soundbite.

    Btw - Carson wasn't actually saying that he didn't want *any* Muslim to be president. He had actually said (when you go outside of the soundbite) that he felt that Sharia (sp?) law did not mesh with the US Constitution, and so a Muslim who embraced that law instead of the Constitution, would not be acceptable. It still wasn't a smart thing to say. He's done a lot of that ...

  9. Livingalmostlarge Says:

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/10/how-australia-and-britain-tackled-gun-violence.html

    US has 7x more gun violence than other countries. And they all have stricter gun laws. Can you dispute the fact that the US has more gun violence than anywhere else?

    Second, Sharia law do you understand it? Do you really know how it is followed Frugal Texan? Have you ever sat through prayers? Can you honestly say that religious scholars and those who practice being a muslim and have said Sharia Law is practiced like the old testament? Or are you judging that which you don't fully understand?

    I ask because I have sat through muslim prayers and heard much about it. My DH best friend is muslim and his family does much religious work for them. To think that the son he is raising as a muslim born in the us shouldn't be president for his faith? Seems ridiculous considering he is one of the genuine, kind, respectful people I've ever met. That he can be a faithful to his religion and good and it's not respected? I'm sorry but no there are many muslim people who are faithful and judged.

    And yes he is profiled. He has been searched and pulled over A LOT. He's missed planes into the US not clearing customs or been pulled in airports. Over the 'perception' of his looks and religion. I consider him my DK1 'godfather' and happy to call him so. He gave her a muslim name that my DH and I embrace and accept happily. But to see him so judged is truly a shame.

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