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I found the secret trump voter

November 11th, 2016 at 04:11 pm

Laugh I did. My redfin touring realtor yesterday "leaned in" and told me I voted for trump. She is a college educated, white, 45-55 woman living in the suburbs divorced with kids. She leans liberal but couldn't vote for Hillary because she's corrupt and establishment. She said doesn't like anything Trump said or stood for but she pulled the lever because she wanted a change. She said she hasn't told coworkers or other friends, because she was embarrassed. Why'd she tell me? I said I didn't vote for Hillary and Trump. I refused. But then I'm registering as an independent because my values mostly align with a certain independent socialist.

The second was a stay at home mom who also is white, college educated, 30-40 married suburbs. She is pretty conservative and was horrified by Trumps racist bigotry but his stances more aligned with hers. She also was embarrassed to tell people she voted for him.

Both women said he offended them and they don't support his views on race or women or religion. But they just couldn't support Hillary for one reason or another. Neither would have told a pollster they'd be voting for Trump.

So these two women whom pollsters "should" be Hillary supporters were closeted Trump supporters. It cements in my mind that Trump supporters that aren't all racist or bigots. Rather probably a small segment is. Many don't agree but still voted for him for other reasons. People who really disagree actually with his words.

Either way I found it interesting that people are hiding they voted for him. It appears that's why polling was off. Because even exit polls people didn't admit to voting for him.

In an aside a couple of our friends are considering moving and leaving the country. We're saddened by their fear. Praying they make the best decision. Both couples are muslim and I asked recently the moms why did they set aside the niqab? The answer was after they had children they were afraid of being physically assaulted and both had been verbally assaulted while walking with their babies. It had been easier when they were single and younger. But pushing a stroller made them reconsider how they appear and they wanted to fit in more. I wonder if we aren't regressing in our ability to accept people of another race, religion, or sexual orientation.

13 Responses to “I found the secret trump voter”

  1. creditcardfree Says:
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    I'm not surprised you found someone. I'm nearly positive that two nieces, my mother in law, and two sister in laws voted for him. And with the exception of my mother in law, I believe they are inclusive and tolerant. I think that is the story that the media missed. And they probably missed it because they made assumptions about those voters. I highly encourage people to be reading news from all sides. It can be hard to digest at first, but it is important to come from a place of understanding, to actually have tolerance for others opinions even if you don't agree with them.

  2. AnotherReader Says:
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    Suggest you read this. Hillary looks like an appeaser, a Neville Chamberlain, to these folks.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2016/11/10/im-a-muslim-a-woman-and-an-immigrant-i-voted-for-trump/?postshare=7001478817476412&tid=ss_fb

  3. creditcardfree Says:
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    Thanks for sharing, AR! We really can't lump people together can we? The country is diverse...many points of view and they don't fit in neat boxes.

  4. Joan.of.the.Arch Says:
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    I'm not considering moving to another country (Who would want me?), but looking at the marijuana votes across the nation, it has occurred to me that I could at least move to a state where I could find a balm for my political trauma stress disorder. Wink

  5. Rachael777 Says:
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    I voted for Trump and am proud of it! Smile

  6. ceejay74 Says:
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    I think it depends on how you define racist. I think that anyone could hear what he plans to do to other races, and decide they could live with that, is a racist. In that they if they heard Trump was going to do that to their own race, they might not have voted for him, but they disregarded people of color as "other" enough that it was just OK enough to secretly vote for him.

  7. AnotherReader Says:
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    He does not plan to do anything to "other races." He expressed unhappiness with many of the immigrants and their effect on the country. As it turns out, a lot of other people are unhappy with the immigration situation as well.

    People vote to improve their lives and the lives of their families. A lot of people did not see Clinton and the Washington "elite" doing anything to help them. Trump is an outsider that promised change. I think that's what his election is about.

  8. ceejay74 Says:
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    Latino and Muslim people in my community are being targeted with insults and assault. And other non-white people too; an Asian-American friend of a friend was verbally and physically harassed by a guy. It's happening all over the city, with alarmingly more frequency since Tuesday. He definitely signaled that it's OK to assume every Latino is an undocumented immigrant and every Muslim is in ISIS.

  9. AnotherReader Says:
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    The level of civility in public discourse is clearly on the decline. I certainly was appalled by the insults attached to real names posted on the web by both sides.

    I know many people that voted for Trump. Not one of them would behave in that manner. There are bad eggs in every group. The violent rioters in Oakland are no different.

    The lesson is we should all stop, take a deep breath, and see how we can fix whatever is making so many people angry on both sides. If the divisions continue to grow, we will face the breakdown of the country a la Balkanization. And that's what our enemies really want.

  10. ceejay74 Says:
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    OMG.

  11. Livingalmostlarge Says:
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    I don't know if I ever posted this but when we first moved to the east coast we lived in a very poor area. It was very interesting experience. More than one cop pulled over and asked if I was lost and I needed help. More than one neighbor knew about me and said I wasn't safe and should go back into my house. I was the only different ethnic person walking a cute fluffy white bichon. We lived there 3 months and then moved into a different area. It was an interesting experience and one I have to admit that my husband said if we were going to live in the inner city next time we should have moved where we fit it and wouldn't stand out.

    Second truth one of the couple's considering leaving is my dh best friend. When they bought their house in 1/2015 they got a letter saying that they should leave. Their kind was part of the problem. Yes the brown Muslim who wore a niqub. It's not surprising nearly two years later they are considering it. I'm not sure if anything has happened since the election but they live in a supposedly upper class white neighborhood in a liberal city.

    Third truth that I lived in a Midwest south city in college and found it difficult. One night in the 90s out with a group of friends of similar ethnic background we went out to dinner and was told we should go back to where we came from. We left the restaurant. None of us were foreign we'd all been born here as American citizens. The next year myself and two roommates transferred to other schools. This was 1996. When we traveled to Atlanta and shopped at a mall with one of my roommates we were stopped in the mall while shopping and our bags were searched and we were asked for receipts to prove we hadnt stolen anything.

    I think wherever you live there are good and bad apples. But I worry that perhaps people are regressing back to how much more intolerant they were.

  12. rob62521 Says:
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    I think like your realtor, many voted for Trump so they didn't vote for Hillary.

  13. LivingAlmostLarge Says:
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    I think that many people were offended by trump but didn't like what hillary stood for.

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