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What is feminism?

February 11th, 2016 at 08:16 am

I am annoyed I'll be honest with Gloria Steinam and Madeleine Albright. They are calling out all young women to support Hillary Clinton because of her gender. They suggest that women are going to hell for not supporting another woman. They also suggest that young millenial women are supporting Bernie to get a boyfriend.

I don't get it. I thought feminism is the idea of supporting any woman's choice. The woman's right to choose. Like the idea that women can choose to stay at home instead of working, even though boomer women and older struggled for equality. They believe that young women don't appreciate it.

We do. But maybe the idea is that Hillary isn't the candidate meant to be the first president. Who knows. But why aren't Albright and Steinam criticizing the conservative women for not voting for Carly Fiorina? Because she couldn't win? Or because they are liberal? So only liberal woman have to support a woman for gender but conservatives get a pass?

Yes I'm annoyed women get paid less than men. Yes I think there is gender discrimination. But trying to guilt people into voting by gender seems like a worse idea. Do these older women realize they are treating younger women exactly the same they were treated? Do they realize that women fought for the ability to make their own decision instead of listening to father/husband? And now they want women to "fall" into line again?

So much for feminism if all what it means is to fall into line what is deemed "acceptable" instead of getting to choose what you want.

7 Responses to “What is feminism?”

  1. creditcardfree Says:

    I'm entirely disgusted by Hillary Clinton for so many reasons...and yes her feminism stance is one of them. I could go on a big rant, but I'll refrain.

    Can I also just say the media(on both sides) has a big play in all of this political talk that really gets in the way of making good informed decisions? I highly suggest to everyone that we read directly from campaign websites for better understand of each candidates. The snippets that come from the media are never the full story.

    I'd also suggest keeping an open mind on both sides of the aisle. The more extreme the candidates (Bernie & Trump) the further apart we become without finding the middle ground that we all can agree with and live with. The media plays a big part in playing the candidates against the other.

  2. laura Says:


    The media is enough to make me want to be: apolitical and asexual.

  3. VS_ozgirl Says:

    In total agreement LAL, women should be able to choose what is right for them from their point of view not because it is supposedly the right thing to do.

  4. Carol Says:

    "Feminists' goal is to make the world a better place for women and men." That's a quote from the early 70's. A long time ago for young women today. The remarks of Steinem and Albright were unfortunate, and you should vote for the candidate of your choice, but it is equally unfortunate to not recognize the very real contributions those women made. And it was a real struggle--it is wrong to dismiss it.

  5. livingalmostlarge Says:

    Dismiss their struggle? No. But CCF I saw the clip of both women talking about why we should vote for Hillary Clinton. NO. I don't buy it. I won't vote for someone I don't agree with. I don't think that's the answer. I found it more insulting for them to suggest women are voting for Bernie because he has "the boys" and that they are tearing Hillary Clinton down. I am not going to tear Hillary down but I certainly am not for supporting her.

    I support Bernie because I've watched all his long ads and his views and mine align. I'm not tearing down feminism but annoyed to be told that I'm wrong and have a special place in hell since I don't support a woman.

    I agree people should watch websites and see what the candidates feel. But what Albright and Steinam miss is that many women support Bernie because he's preaching to his choir. What he says is resonating. Not because there are men supporting him. FWIW my DH isn't for Bernie.

    Carol I wonder why cant' feminists see that women are choosing because they are given an opportunity to express themselves? And why not attack conservative women for not voting for Carly Fiorina?

  6. Carol Says:

    I see what you are saying about the opportunity for women to express themselves means they get to say what they believe, and I certainly feel Bernie 's appeal.
    My problem is with young women, my beloved granddaughters included, taking for granted the struggles of the 60's and 70's (nor do I think we should take for granted the earlier ones), especially because I do not think women have equality yet. That's what I care about.

  7. LuckyRobin Says:

    Well, but they aren't really about women having the right to choose. They are only about women choosing what "they" think is the right thing to choose, and that is whatever they believe themselves. I see this in many cases on the far left and on the far right. They are being extremely sexist in saying choose option A because of gender, not choose option A because option A is the best candidate. How is that any better than saying choose option B because of race? No one thing should ever be the reason why you vote for someone. There should be multiple reasons, and they should align with your own convictions as much as possible. I don't see how these matriarchal women demanding people vote their way is any different from patriarchal men doing the same thing. Give us the facts and let us make up our own minds and respect our decisions. That is choice. That is the freedom to choose. That is what they were supposed to have fought for. Not this. Never this.

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